The Shaun Tabatt Show

Millions of people are now being taught how to initiate contact with UFOs or non-human intelligence. Former Green Beret Paul Bock says that may be one of the most dangerous developments in the modern disclosure movement.
Paul joins me to discuss his new book, The Disclosure Agenda: A Green Beret’s Warning to the Church About UFOs, Aliens, and Their Emerging Religion, and why he believes the bigger story isn’t simply whether the phenomenon is real—but the spiritual belief system forming around it.
After serving in U.S. Army Special Forces with deployments to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria, Paul eventually became involved in work surrounding the UAP phenomenon. What he encountered convinced him that Christians have focused so heavily on UFOs themselves that many have missed the religious and spiritual ideas developing around them.
In this conversation, Paul explains why he believes UFO disclosure has been normalized over decades, how Steven Greer’s CE-5 protocol attempts to initiate contact with non-human intelligence, and why millions of people are now being exposed to practices involving meditation, consciousness, altered states, and direct supernatural contact.
Paul’s message throughout the interview is simple: don’t dismiss supernatural experiences—but don’t accept them uncritically either. Test everything.
We also explore:
• How Paul went from Green Beret to the UAP world• Why UFO disclosure has become a mainstream conversation• The emerging belief system surrounding non-human intelligence• Why Paul describes disclosure as an influence operation• Steven Greer’s near-death experience and spiritual worldview• What CE-5 and human-initiated contact actually involve• How people are being encouraged to “make contact” themselves• UFO abductions, NDEs, and supernatural encounters• Why supernatural experiences are not automatically from God• Whether apparently beneficial encounters can still be deceptive• What pastors should do when someone reports an encounter• Why Christianity must recover its supernatural worldview• How Christians can stay informed without becoming obsessed• Why biblical discernment matters more than chasing the phenomenon
📕 Get Paul Bock’s book:The Disclosure Agenda: A Green Beret’s Warning to the Church About UFOs, Aliens, and Their Emerging Religionhttps://www.amazon.com/Disclosure-Agenda-Warning-Emerging-Religion/dp/1636416462
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Have you ever had a thought, impression, or feeling and wondered: Was that God—or was that just me?
Wendy Backlund joins Shaun Tabatt to explore how Christians can learn to recognize God’s voice with greater confidence. Drawing from her book Living from the Unseen: Reflections from a Transformed Life, Wendy shares how she learned to hear God through ordinary impressions, why discernment develops through relationship and practice, and why fear of getting it wrong can keep believers from growing.
In this conversation, Shaun and Wendy discuss:
• How Wendy learned to recognize God’s voice• How to discern God’s voice from your own thoughts• Why hearing God often begins with small impressions• Why hearing God involves relationship and practice• Why striving can make discernment harder• How imagination relates to biblical faith• What it means to live with awareness of the unseen realm• Why Wendy writes down what she believes God is saying• How renewing your mind can transform your emotions• Practical ways to grow in spiritual awareness
Wendy also shares the provocative challenge she believes God gave her: “Being small is not going to change the world” and “You have permission to be as glorious as you want.”
If you’ve ever wanted to hear God more clearly—or wondered whether you were simply imagining it—this conversation will give you practical insight for growing in confidence and discernment.
Books mentioned in this episode:
Living from the Unseen: Reflections from a Transformed Life
The Unveiling: An Excerpt of Angelic Correspondence
Connect with Wendy Backlund and Igniting Hope:
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YouTube - @IgnitingHopeMinistries
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Nearly twenty years after The Shack became a worldwide phenomenon, Wm. Paul Young has finally written a sequel.
In this deeply personal conversation, Paul reveals why he returned to Mackenzie Allen Phillips and the world of The Shack—and how nearly a decade of friendships with men on death row helped inspire Return to the Shack: A Journey into Redemption.
At the heart of the new story is an extraordinary question: What happens when forgiveness is no longer theoretical?
Mack must come face-to-face with the man who abducted and murdered his daughter and wrestle with whether anyone is truly beyond redemption.
Paul also shares a remarkably vulnerable experience from his own life. After someone he deeply cares about was seriously harmed, Paul found himself consumed with thoughts of vengeance, even waking in the middle of the night thinking about how he could kill the person responsible. That experience forced him to confront the difference between talking about forgiveness and actually living it.
Shaun and Paul explore forgiveness, justice versus vengeance, enemy love, grief, redemption, the goodness of God, Paul's friendships with men on death row, and what he hopes readers experience when they enter the Shack again.
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Bo Kennedy made one dangerous invitation during a paranormal investigation: he told whatever was in the basement that it could use him. Minutes later, he felt as though he were dying. In this episode, Bo shares his journey from Catholic roots and childhood paranormal experiences through a dark season of ghost hunting and ultimately into spiritual warfare ministry. He explains why paranormal curiosity can open dangerous spiritual doors, how Jesus redirected his life, and what believers need to understand about spiritual authority, discernment, and freedom in Christ. Bo also discusses his book, Army of God: Pocket Guide to Spiritual Warfare, the growth of The BUMP Podcast, and how God has used testimony, obedience, and unexpected ministry opportunities to reach people searching for answers. Learn more about Bo Kennedy and The BUMP Podcast at TheBumpPodcast.com.

A stranger chased Eric Davis to his car and insisted that he accept a free antique wooden statue. Soon afterward, disturbing spiritual activity began affecting Eric's family. His three-year-old daughter repeatedly reported seeing three little men standing in her bedroom. Unexplained odors and strange lights appeared inside the home. Convinced that the antique was connected to the activity, Eric burned it—but the spiritual oppression did not completely end. Years later, Eric and his wife purchased their dream home: an 1837 plantation with a Civil War-era hospital and a long history of reported paranormal activity. There, the manifestations escalated into an intense spiritual battle that placed extraordinary pressure on their home, marriage, and faith. In this gripping conversation, Eric shares: Why the antique dealer was determined to give him the statue What his young daughter repeatedly saw in her bedroom Why destroying the cursed object did not end the oppression The disturbing history of the plantation property The terrifying manifestations his family experienced there The moment Eric found himself unable to say the name of Jesus Why prayer and anointing the property brought only temporary relief How unforgiveness became a critical part of the spiritual battle What finally brought freedom to Eric's family and home How the experience transformed Eric's faith and led him into deliverance ministry Eric recounts the complete story in his book, Deliverance at Springhill Plantation. Connect with Eric Davis: SpringhillBook.com Purchase Deliverance at Springhill Plantation: Amazon Learn more about Orbis Ministries: OrbisMinistries.org Subscribe to The Shaun Tabatt Show for more conversations exploring spiritual warfare, deliverance, near-death experiences, the supernatural, and the unseen world. This episode presents Eric Davis's personal testimony and religious interpretation of his experiences. It is not medical or mental-health advice.

A 7,000-year-old underground palace beneath Rome. Thousands of skeletons with elongated skulls. And in the 1940s, a teacher took thirty students into its tunnels on a field trip. They were never found. Pastor Larry Ollison returns to The Shaun Tabatt Show to talk about his book, Hidden Mysteries and the Bible: Secrets Revealed — Aliens, UFOs, Giants, Time Travel, Multiverse, AI, and Other Unexplained Phenomena. We dig into what Scripture actually says about the Nephilim and fallen angels, UFOs and alien encounters, Ouija boards and demonic spirits, and how ancient discoveries line up with the Bible. As always, we test it against Scripture, not speculation. In this conversation: - The underground palace discovery beneath Rome and the mystery of the missing students - Who the Nephilim and Watchers actually were, according to Scripture - UFOs, alien abductions, and angelic encounters through a biblical lens - Why Ouija boards and "ghost" experiences are more spiritually significant than most realize - What the Bible says about time travel, artificial intelligence, and the multiverse Connect with Larry Ollison: Books: wowbooks.org Teaching and ministry: ollison.org If this episode encouraged you, subscribe and leave a review wherever you're listening — it helps more people find these conversations.